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"Giving closeness when words are not enough" - Clinical pastoral care at Zollikerberg Hospital

lic. theol. Sales Meier

lic. theol. Sales Meier

November 21, 2025

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10 min

Clinical counselling is far more than just a conversation: it is a mindful accompaniment in times of illness, crises and deep questions about life. In this interview, Pastor Sales Meier talks about his experiences as a hospital chaplain - about quiet moments of togetherness, about dealing with feelings of powerlessness and about how small gestures are often enough to give people support, comfort and guidance in stressful situations.

What distinguishes clinical pastoral care from other forms of pastoral counselling - especially in the setting of an acute hospital?

In contrast to other pastoral care services, clinical pastoral care in acute hospitals is strongly process-orientated, situational and focused on the specific challenges of acute illness and crisis. It responds flexibly to sudden emergencies, provides psychological and spiritual first aid and often accompanies people in a very vulnerable phase of their lives. It is more than just a conversation: clinical pastoral care offers attentive, empathetic support for patients, relatives and staff in a highly dynamic medical environment. A special feature is intensive listening ("listening"), which creates space for burdens, fears, hopes and spiritual needs. Spiritual elements such as communion for the sick, prayer or blessing can also be included - always with consent.

How do you support patients in existential crises, e.g. after a stressful diagnosis or before a serious operation?

Patients in hospital not only have a history of illness, but also a history of life and suffering. A serious illness often shatters their self-image. Questions about one's own identity - who am I when I am dependent, weakened or in need of care? - often come to the fore.

Pastoral care in hospital initially means open relationship work. It is a careful endeavour to really get to know a person - with their joys and pains, their happiness and unhappiness, the highs and lows that have shaped their life and led to their current situation. It is also about helping the patient to develop a sense of their own story and to follow it.

My presence, my inner being, is central to the conversation. It has an effect on contact, creates trust and is a prerequisite for genuine interest and attention. Listening should be free of your own ideas, preferences and judgements - in other words, completely unbiased. And ultimately, listening is not just about being present with your ears and mind, but also with your heart. This means not only perceiving information, but also empathising with it. This empathy, our human touchability, creates a connection with the inner world of my counterpart.

A key question that I ask myself as a counsellor is not: "What should I say or do?" but rather: "How do I create enough space for the person's story to be heard?" Pastoral care is the humble yet challenging task of opening up a protective space in which a person can deal with their pain and suffering without fear and confidently search for new paths despite confusion.

Rituals such as communion for the sick also have a supportive effect here as a strengthening way of feeding the sick. A psalm prayer or a blessing places what has been entrusted to you in a wider context of meaning. Because I can trust in the biblical promise "Where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I in the midst of them" in my conversations.


Relatives are also often under great pressure. How do you respond to them - and what can you do in such situations?

The approach of empathic dialogue described above is also the same for relatives. True to the motto: "A sorrow shared is a sorrow halved."


Are there typical misunderstandings about your work in hospital that you often encounter?

Fortunately, I have not yet been confronted with such misunderstandings in my practice.


How do you maintain space for presence, silence and personal encounters in the busy hospital routine?

In contrast to other professional groups such as physiotherapy, as a hospital chaplain I don't have any time or target-oriented guidelines for conversations. This takes the pressure off and enables genuine encounters. Patients usually talk about the issues that are most important to them at the moment anyway.

I endeavour to be present with an open, attentive and empathetic attitude. This is supported by my daily contemplative meditation - a prayer practice in which I can surrender the conversations entrusted to me to the power of God. For me, it is a form of beneficial spiritual hygiene. I can also trust in this power of love and creation in my encounters. This is very relieving, because it is not just my own effort that counts.

How do you deal with spiritual questions, doubts or hopes when people have no religious affiliation?

During my visits over the past few years, I have observed a clear trend away from denominational support towards individualised support in the sense of spiritual care. While many people used to be rooted in a church tradition, today more and more people are looking for meaning and support outside of institutionalised religions.

Individual spirituality is often a "patchwork" of religious, cultural and ethical influences that can gain or lose significance over the course of a person's life. Spiritual care is based on the assumption that every person has spiritual needs - consciously or unconsciously, especially in borderline situations or near the end of life.

Accompanying this search is not only the task of pastoral care, but of the entire treatment team. The aim is never to pass on one's own convictions, but to support people in discovering and strengthening their own resources.


What does the collaboration with nursing, doctors and psychology look like in concrete terms?

As a counsellor, I am very well integrated into the treatment team at Zollikerberg Hospital. As a kind of "go-to church", I visit patients during their inpatient stay, even without prior appointment. I am also often consulted by relatives, nursing staff or doctors.

Every Tuesday morning, I take part in the interprofessional palliative report, in which we work together to find the best possible support for patients - while of course maintaining pastoral care confidentiality. For geriatric acute rehabilitation patients, the rapport takes place on Thursday afternoons.

I also offer further training for staff and doctors on topics such as spirituality, mindfulness, stress management and spiritual care and am an open point of contact for personal discussions. There is also a lunchtime meditation session every Tuesday. It offers all employees the opportunity to pause for a moment during a demanding working day, find peace and recharge their batteries.

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Roman Catholic hospital chaplain

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